Pemulis catches Avril and Wayne — "So you’re saying I’m overestimating objects?’…"

Stice's flat-twanged reduction of Rusk's whole Oedipal spiel. Carlisle's reading, recorded not adopted: this is Stice shopping the moving-bed problem to the wrong counselor the night after Lyle told him not to underestimate objects — the seed-scene's advice coming back inverted through the jargon.