Inside The New York Times Book Review: 'Infinite Jest' at 20 (Pietsch + Bissell)
TL;DR
February 2016 NYT Book Review podcast for the 20th-anniversary edition: ~15 minutes each with Michael Pietsch (editor, then Hachette CEO) and Tom Bissell (who wrote the new foreword). Pietsch retells the acquisition/editing story with several specifics beyond our Infinite Summer note; Bissell supplies the "first great internet novel" framing and a personal addiction angle. Only the first half of the 47-minute episode is IJ (the rest is Amazon-bookstores news and an unrelated author). Auto-captions; paraphrase only.
Key claims — Pietsch (~min 2-20)
(Podcast speech is paraphrase throughout; short coinages stand.)
- Acquisition: Bonnie Nadell sent stories from obscure magazines, then roughly the first 150 manuscript pages — assorted starts and pieces; a very small set of editors competed, in the end effectively Little, Brown against one other house (~min 5-7).
- The brief Wallace gave him: shorten the book as far as it would go while it stayed itself — and Wallace had felt his past editorial relationships went badly because he was too dismissive (~min 7).
- Elevator pitch: an extremely funny novel whose people are in great pain; explicitly not science fiction — the near-future as license to make fun of the world as it stands (~min 8-10).
- Endnotes vs. footnotes was a real layout debate: at the foot of the page they made the book read like a scary textbook; endnotes kept the page approachable; ultimately Wallace's call (~min 11).
- Editing on partials: all he could flag was where he was confused or slowed ("this section feels like a wall") vs. racing; Wallace's responses ran the range from flat refusal — no persuasion on the planet would change a passage — to the deadpan capitulation Pietsch still quotes: told to cut an early chapter, Wallace inventoried what it carried — three major characters, five central themes — and then agreed anyway (~min 12-14).
- Marathe/Steeply fix (~min 14-15): the mountainside material originally featured a character faking a bad French accent; Wallace realized the extra layer was unperceivable and made it simply a heavy accent — a concrete example of his sanding readability problems himself.
- The videophony save (~min 15-16): Pietsch recommended cutting the videophony rise-and-fall as detachable; Wallace's reply — that Pietsch was out of his mind, the passage killed read aloud, and the book needed its set pieces. Pietsch now calls it one of the first things people cite.
- Marketing: the challenge was making the length an asset — a campaign that in effect dared the buyer: are you reader enough? (~min 18-19).
- The first-chapter clue (~min 16-17): asked if Wallace knew the ending, Pietsch deflects to the McGuffin while noting the very first chapter carries a line about it, before any of the characters have even been met — i.e. the editor reads the p. 17 graveyard memory as the planted key. Also: he's rereading from page one for the anniversary and hadn't read it entire since Wallace died (~min 19-20).
- A Supposedly Fun Thing pitched as IJ's companion: both books, in his pairing, treat pleasure taken past its limit and the sadness on the far side (~min 16).
Key claims — Bissell (~min 20-30)
- Met Wallace via Franzen over chewing tobacco; their quitting conversations map almost one-to-one, he says, onto IJ's addiction passages — addiction as a hijacking of every decision-making motor in the head, quitting as requiring a "spiritual breakthrough," which he says he learned from Wallace/IJ (~min 21-23).
- Structure: three (really four) driving storylines that decline the payoff a traditional novel would deliver — the ending sits back in the first ten pages as a one-sentence mention the reader must loop back for; a book that critiques entertainment couldn't allow itself to be propulsively entertaining, hence the deliberate roadblocks (~min 23-25).
- "The first great internet novel" (~min 25-26): written pre-web, but the Entertainment is the analog of Netflix, 60-hour games, social-media refresh — predictive in a spiritual rather than one-to-one way.
- The funny litmus test: anyone who read it unamused is, he insists, either lying or humorless (~min 25).
- Post-suicide rereading: the Kate Gompert nausea-of-depression scene made him put the book down, wondering how autobiographical it was; Wallace's perceptiveness was his great blessing as a writer, and also what made being David Foster Wallace so hard (~min 27-28).
- What lasts: the sentences and the empathy for fictional people — placing Wallace with Eliot/Austen/Melville/Bellow/Robinson on those two axes (~min 29-30).
Themes
addiction-recovery (Bissell's tobacco mapping), entertainment-self (internet-novel framing), depression-anhedonia (Gompert), structure (endnotes, editing).
Cross-references
- infinite-summer-pietsch-editing-ij — the fuller editing record (~250 pp. cut, margin defenses); this adds the videophony refusal, the French-accent simplification, and the textbook-page rationale.
- video-lopate-1996 — Wallace's own 1996 account of the Pietsch deal and cuts.
- themes/the-ending — Pietsch's first-chapter-clue remark is an editor-side echo of the "answers are in the first chapter" doctrine.
- themes/entertainment-and-the-self — Bissell's internet-novel framing.
- print-companions-carlisle-burn — the anniversary-edition context (Bissell foreword).